Out of my Depth

I’m so totally out of my depth! Surely they can’t expect me to know everything?

I have been promoted recently from a project support role in our PMO team to a full Project Manager role. In my new role I have been put in charge (as the sole Project Manager!) of a project to replace our very dated Call Centre management system with a replacement that will be linked to our customer website with things like web chat and web forms.  All this new tech will be a huge change for a lot of staff, as well as customers.

My big problem is that that the brief for this project is incredibly loose, and goes something like:

Create a process for tendering for potential new suppliers and selecting the right one. Then create a working group to work with the new supplier and deploy the new system to all 60 users, while linking it to our website to make the new website tools available to customers. Oh, we’ve also promised the Board lots of time-saving benefits in our Business Case to fund the project, so make sure those benefits actually materialise as well

To say I am out of my depth would be like saying the sun is a bit hot.  

For a start, I have never run a tendering exercise in my life and have no idea where to start. Do I just Google for potential suppliers like I’m buying a coffee machine? How do I compare one against the other, except on price, and how to I make sure they are not under-quoting to get the business, and will charge more later? Who should make the decision on which one we buy?

Even presuming we don’t mess that up, how do I know what’s involved in the deployment, integrations, testing and go-live? How long will it take? Do I just expect the supplier to tell me how to do everything?  That feels pretty risky, especially if things start to go wrong.

Also, there’s already talk the new system will remove the need for some jobs. What if the Call Centre teams don’t like it and don’t want to put the time in to test it? And where are all these time-savings going to come from, and what if none appear? Not all new systems magically save staff time just because they are new.

To be honest, I feel panicked when I think about it all, and I am wondering whether I should tell my boss I can’t do this project. That wouldn’t do my career any good, but it could be a lot better than getting this project wrong at every stage.

Help me Savi, any advice at all will be really welcome!

Totally Out of my Depth

project meetings

How do I prevent constant interruptions during my meetings?

I (33F, she/her) I’m pretty new to being a Project Manager after years in more of an admin role. I’m not super-experienced at running meetings and I’m finding it difficult to deal with people who either stop me to ask about things I’m going to cover later (clearly set out on my agenda, I might add), or want to raise something only vaguely related, and then spend precious time on that.

The result is that my project meetings aren’t as effective as they should be, and I worry I risk losing respect from people. Or maybe that’s the problem in the first place.

For instance, I was doing an important kick-off meeting last week where I had done a lot of preparation. I was only a minute into opening the meeting, when one of the managers interrupted to ask me about whether her team members were required on the project as they were already busy, which went down a rabbit hole for at least ten minutes.

Because I’m still quite junior as a PM, and I don’t want to upset people, I always try to stay pleasant throughout these interactions, no matter how irritating.

As I say, this is giving me some self-esteem issues, where I worry I’m not being taken seriously, and if I’m really cut out to be a PM. After all, being able to manage meetings is a big part of the job (I think).

Sometimes I feel like people really need a lesson in good manners, but obviously the change has to come from me.

Tired Junior PM 

Quality

Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y

Our whole team is writing to you here. In protest! Not against you (!) but against our current supplier.

We will save their shame by not naming them here. But we have all come to the point where we are having regular internal discussions about walking away and pausing the project to go find another agency to rescue us and our project out of chaos.

As our subject line says, NOTHING we receive in development to test has anywhere near the Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y …quality…. we asked for in our RfP or expected when we set out the vision for the project.

And it’s a website. Not that it would be different for our internal systems as we respect our internal teams and what they need daily. But our customers would see this mess if we published it!! Thank the Lord above they are seeing none of this right now.

We are only saved by the fact we are in project mode and none of this is out there under the eyes of our users.

We feel cheated.

The issues started when we were seeing wireframes of the online design and getting access to our supplier’s agency components library.

At pitch stage we saw pages and pages of static imagery and website case studies that all looked great to us. But we suspect the agency has lost a lot of design talent in the last year.

More than this though there is a blatant slapdash quality to what we see whether it is mock-ups, early prototypes, components returned to us after HOURS of detailed lines of feedback. It’s not even that it looks unfinished (which it does) – it has no through line! The agency’s design looks like a band of blindfolded strangers at a train station put the designs together at gunpoint.

We wish this was exaggeration. 

And we are exhausted with major issue reporting and escalations. Nothing we do makes any difference. The owners of the agency come to endless meetings with our Sponsor and promise radical improvement yet as soon as they helicopter out, we are left again with a design team that look out on their feet, thousand-yard stares on their faces.

We are exhausted and right now even though it would cost a lot of money to ship them out and go again, we are ready to stop this and move on.

Any help is really appreciated.

Fed up of Bog Standards

I think we screwed up testing

I Think We Screwed Up Testing

I am a PM from Buffalo NY. I work in a financial services company. We are 11 months into an ERP replacement project with Salesforce.

The initial stages were positive – working out that we needed to move off our current ERP, working out what we needed, selecting, and onboarding a Salesforce ISV who is very strong in the market.

Even the opening stages of an Agile development cycle were solid – good sprints, high delivery, the right set of people watching demos and running blocks of UAT.

Initially, I could see the problem mounting when we started to see a more-than-average amount of queries being raised in UAT. But mostly these weren’t bugs – we were sweeping through items we knew we needed on top of what was a comprehensive set of RfP requirements.

But cash flow is good, and the company made a commitment upfront to getting this right even if it meant more investment. Our team was all warned against a half-cooked solution on Go Live Day.

Sprints are now completed, and we are into testing End 2 End. In short, after a couple of heavy months, I packed up last Friday, sat at my home desk and stared out the window and thought:

“I think we screwed up testing.”

You see, what we saw nothing of in UAT was whole batches of bugs hidden by the fact we were not using our entire dataset to test. We had uploaded a good size dummy dataset, focussing on a high volume of dummy transactions records. We were most focussed on how fast the system was going to process what is for us millions of transactions per months.

What the entire team did not see, me especially, is that the day-to-day elements of the system that need to fit our data standards – pipeline, real-time calculation, and forecasting – are all failing as we put the system together with our real data.

And it will fail again and again because half of the things we need aren’t there yet.

We’ve had summit meetings and Salesforce have thrown heavyweight resources at the problem: adding new user stories, helping us work out our own network of business rules.

But we can’t see our way out right now. We’ve done weeks of testing that has no predictable end and now our team is causing errors and sharing feedback that is wrong or confused. It’s making the problem worse.

What do you do in a scenario like this when smart people who are available and do test just aren’t coming up with the answers?

We are now under major pressure from our Board – getting it right did also mean not wasting the company’s money forever. We need a way out fast, and I just can’t see what fixes this.

Buried beneath data in Buffalo

Project Challenges

Please, please, please only give me the headlines

This is a funny one. I hope it does not feel too slight given some of the challenges projects encounter. I have been a PM for about five years and have a good roster of projects under my belt, both at my current firm, a Legal Services company, and in a previous role. 

With some modesty, I do not find technical or complex elements of projects that concerning, and I work well with stakeholders and my teams. I have a no-nonsense approach. 

This is where the problem may come in. I’m impatient. A lot of that personality quirk I can deal with, and I mask my frustration enough to stay sane and helpful in most project scenarios. 

I am approaching the end of my limited patience with two people on a current project though – one in my own team, and one who is the data lead of our technology supplier.

Nothing they say is ever in summary. Whether it is an email, a report or in discussion during stand ups or our regular data progress meetings, minutes then whole meetings drift by in one endless monologue

And with the data lead in question, I have higher expectations and even lower results. I get that the technicalities of data migration require terminology and technical description, but this is absurd. Even the most basic questions I ask – how long? What is the main issue? What is your proposed fix? – all turn into complicated, verbal assaults on the senses that are not stopped by my regular interruptions. 

In both cases, it is like the full narrative must be explained to me in all its glorious detail to avoid any risk I miss an ounce of detail or context in my descriptions to the project board or the team.

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My team colleague is also starting to incur the wrath of the rest. Sometimes we are at the point of shutting this person down just so we can get onto other actions, and I don’t work like that. 

But I do need some tangible advice here. I have been having recent discussions about potential swap out of both people, to be honest, if only to avoid major communication and data risks. Is that unfair? 

That is the crux of the matter. I am at the point where I either try a set of things once more myself with the good members of the team helping, or I press on and slowly but surely neutralise the issue. 

I would really appreciate some guidance. 

Braindead through listening. 

flightless_bird

Our Business Case Is a Flightless Bird

I am coming to you with a common problem. I work for a national charity in Ireland. And, I am Ops Manager for the charity overseeing a care line with a team of ten call agents.

I have managed projects before. And, I never trained formally, but I worked in a lot of project teams and then at my last role in fundraising, I ended up managing all our internal projects and mini projects. And I did well. If I got anything right, it was always keeping everyone going when things got tough and getting projects finished.

Old Support Management System

In my current role I feel like I have been hammering my head against a brick wall for about two years now. We have a very old supporter management system supplied by a single developer who is a friend of the charity’s CEO (Of course, this situation has red flags everywhere).

The system was pretty good way back when. But ever since I have been here, it has never lived up to what we need. We have lots of downtime to fix problems. We have seen some scary things happen like data disappearing from backup only to reappear rather than be definitively retrieved.

Our staff hates the system, and it is not a question of this supplier developer guy being a problem. He has his hands tied. He wants to innovate yet in quiet corners he admits he has built something on very old software applications that are out of date. There is no big upgrade project he can deliver – it can’t be fixed with tinkering.

But my real problem is that our management team is asleep at the wheel on this problem. I wrote a draft Business Case in my first six months, sharing options for budgets, suppliers, and software all well within our reach for investment. And on our quarterly development reporting today, that Business Case is STILL marked as Under Review. Eighteen months later!!!

At first, I hit some real pushback from the CEO. Even though I bought in our current supplier, telling him the change would involve him, my CEO saw this as a takeover bid and (secretly) a way to give him a headache on a personal front. So, the Business Case got sent away with some non-committal feedback and a very vague return date.

Rebuilding The Business Case

I did the genuine work of rebuilding the Business Case. The next time the Case went up, I got some agreement to “research” much to the CEO’s distaste. But when I went back to management with the research for what I thought was going to be a budget decision and an approval to run the project, it got put on pause and we got into some wider income issues with dropping supporter numbers.

But about three months ago, our entire support teams were up in arms after six full weeks of small yet recurring performance issues. This time, my boss, the Head of Operations and Fundraising suggested I attach the document to my latest Business Case for review by the management team.

Once again that review sent me back for more research, this time suggesting we seriously look at some way to locate a “like-for-like” switch to what we have now (impossible) with a budget that is much less than I outlined.

If I am honest given this mandate, I have zero energy or enthusiasm to go again and seek approval. I just cannot see it getting a green light and especially not in the way the Exec is suggesting.

Dismayed in Dublin

Nice group - replace

Nice Group, Nothing Is Getting Done – Help

Help! I am at absolute breaking point with my team. I am a Project Manager in a midsize publishing company in the UK. And, I have been running, or attempting to run, our core CRM Project for eleven months now. In brief, my team is a nightmare!

I say that. They are really nice people. Ok, I have some politics to deal with in the group but in general the problem is not that they do not get along, or indeed that they do not get along with me. It’s just that since the start of the project, I have been doing ALL OF THE WORK!

I can be quite hard on myself in general so straight off the bat I have recently been like “am I being too lenient? Am I being unclear about tasks I know I have delegated? Have I set all this up wrong in terms of what the group think the TEAM MEETING and its ACTIONS section is meant to cover.”

But in reality, I think I have set up a good project with all the right things in place – a Project Board, a Sponsor, the Team, RAID logs, plans, template etc and we have a good supplier. But they have only recently been onboarded and are already starting to spot the rot – items they have requested weeks ago remain In Progress on our action tracker.

Team Meetings

I have opened certain recent team meetings discussing whether we have an issue. It’s terrible – I get what I usually get which is a lot of good discussion and ideas even some of the re-commitment to stale actions, and even apologies with an awareness that a lot of the work falls at my feet. Yet, a day or two later, most have gone back to their BAU or to some of the easy parts of the project like preparing for our internal Town Halls, and I am left holding baby with a massive, growing To Do list.

I think I am at the point of an escalation to Project Board – my Sponsor is aware of the issue yet has taken somewhat of a tough approach to me, stating that the project will improve WHEN I win that battle and get them to be more proactive on my behalf.

But I need the strong-arm approach – I need my sponsor and the board to officially mark the lack of progress and do something real that turns this around for me.

I guess on top of this I don’t want to Tell Teacher. As I say they are good people and they do have day jobs, and I do not want the impression to be that our Board should shout at the team without understanding those nuances.

But yeah, right now, at the end of most LONG days, I want to give up (which would mean quitting the role not just the project) and yeah, I would like the Board to shout at them all and get them to actually do the work that gets us in a better state of progress.

Savi Help!

Exhausted in Publishing 

Ops Comms get along

My vital project stakeholders cannot get along!

I have a real problem inside my Project Team. It is one I have seen before on other projects, yet never quite so destructive as this.

I am a Project Manager for a regulatory body. We have many formal, rule-based processes and are introducing a set of systems that will offer easy routes to create web forms online and a network of back-end workflows to support them.

In one sense I think this is the heart of the issue. I have two representatives in the Project Team – one from Comms, and one in the Operations Department, who cannot see eye to eye on anything!

It’s such an obvious issue that one Board member joked last month that we need to change the two people on the team, or give them both a personality transplant.

In essence, Comms want everything to be automated so that the customers and staff do as little as possible, while Operations say most processes need staff input at each stage. It’s not clear whether they are worried about peoples’ jobs, or convinced automation won’t work.

These things should be decided on a factual basis, but this seems impossible and project meetings have become contentious and unpleasant.

In terms of what I have tried, I have opened time for discussion about disagreements and looked to achieve a balance in how we approve requirements where they can help customers and staff.

But I am unable to get them to agree at all, and worse, they do not back down, so we have to have lengthy debates about every formal process with the same levels of conflict.

This is really starting to damage the project and ruining what is otherwise going reasonably well.

Any tips would really help. I do not want to have to deal with this in-fighting for much longer.

Part Time Project Manager, Full Time Nanny

Requirements

Whose requirements are these anyway?

I recently read and enjoyed the article submitted by Wishes he had a Time Machine.

I thought to myself, I have a similar problem, yet with me it is my supplier who is being chaotic and raising new requirements everywhere, not my users.

I am a Senior PM working in insurance. We have a set of systems we need to replace in a particular order in the next three years. Two systems are finished with two to go, and I am in ‘discovery’ with the latest supplier to set up the project specification and get them to start delivery.

Our teams have been great. They have gotten used to taking internal workshop invites, working through requirements, and confirming what is/what is not required, and we actually finished this project stage early and got praise from all suppliers involved in our tender regarding the quality of what we shared.

Our chosen supplier is a Subject Matter Expert company in this sector. I think this is what is going wrong. “The tail is wagging the dog” as they say.

Now that we are back in workshops with them, I go in as PM to oversee proceedings only to find they are dragging everyone down rabbit holes taking about their latest applications and add-ons and how we must consider adding these in.

Our people are not stupid, yet it is very appealing to see features that would make life easier so I have started to see a change in behaviours and some of the items shared are no longer being refused with puzzled looks.

In a workshop last week, I had to leave the room to answer a call. When I came back, the screen was open with a forecasting tool nowhere near what we requested. The supplier team is deep into discussion about how it can revolutionise some of our decision making and the internal team are talking about how it does seem helpful to the success of the company.

I was so angry at our supplier. I took them to one side after the workshop and completely berated them. Lo and behold, my Sponsor got in touch saying they felt I was being too conservative to the power of what they could deliver for “very minimal further budget.”

I nearly hit the roof. My Sponsor helped calm me down and really gets it. But I want you to let me know if there is a particular way to approach this conversation given I could easily go in very bluntly and tell them to stop the behaviour or we are retendering!

I just think it runs against the principle of us collaborating and the entire setup during supplier selection where we discussed how tidily we had managed user requests and what our priorities must be to get all four of our systems replaced by our deadlines.

This approach creates a risk of us being late and over budget. What’s the best approach here?

Controlling the Scope

Listening

Why were they not listening much EARLIER?

I think this is something you see a lot of in projects. I searched through recent responses and could not find a scenario exactly like ours so I hope you can help us, and anyone like us.

Ten months ago, we embarked on a major systems replacement at our charity. We achieved Business Case approval for the budget, but target timeframes were short and we were forced to run a very quick requirements exercise to allow us to start the bidding process from potential suppliers.

So, the project set off with the best intentions to document our requirements. I can probably say we encountered pure bad luck in this stage.

As well as the short timeframes issue, we just got a ‘bad’ bunch of volunteers to represent our requirements. Workshops were chaotic. They resembled giant talking-shops about the charity’s problems. Despite thorough briefings about the project scope, you would have thought we were planning Amazon’s next website based on some of the impractical and wildly expensive requests we heard.

In hindsight, we should have approached the process of gathering requirements entirely differently, with specialist help for business process mapping, and a focus on what each business areas really needs, instead of what they would like. This was suggested but did not lead to additional spending on that resource.

So not only did we know at the time that we had a messy list of requirements, but we also had a suspicion it may not be complete either.

Fast forward to now. We are in the User Acceptance Testing stage and in every week’s testing session, we have some of the same individuals spending their time chaotically testing the system and raising many new requests on a daily basis for software they now say is critical for the launch.

Of course, we assess everything and have manage to push back on certain items yet there is a huge gap in our system around business rules that we must now fill. Plus some of our testers are already saying the system won’t meet their needs without the things they didn’t mention when they were asked months ago.

Our supplier is helpful and we are working in an Agile way, so have adapted to take up some new requirements. But the supplier has requested a Board meeting and it looks like we are heading towards a project extension and budget increase.

I can accept that. My major advice request is how we can stop the rot? How do we know we will have enough cover to complete the project launch without having to re-run ‘discovery’ (and possibly even requirements gathering) with our users?

It would be great to get your perspective, Savi.

Wishes He Had a Time Machine